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nobody@flickr.com (holycowcreative) — Sun, 19 May 2013 17:11:49 -0700

On Sunday we're 9,11 and 1, with :30 between each. I wouldn't want it any tighter than that, we're moving several thousand and it's challenging especially for parking and children's ministry.

I wouldn't compromise the service, if people don't come because service starts too late not sure they're going to be in the right mind frame at a 10:30 or 10:45 service. For compromising service is catering too much to people's "needs".

9,11, and 1 works well for us...in fact 11 is our busiest service filling up every one of our overflow areas every service.

If you want to cut something, DaBoom is right on, cut announcements or put them in a different spot (ie. offering)

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nobody@flickr.com (mattada) — Fri, 17 May 2013 13:13:55 -0700

mattada posted a reply:

You can use it fully closed, only if there is a keyboard, monitor and power. Remove the keyboard or power and it goes back to sleep.

Funny thing is that i usually go from the office to home and hardly ever actually open my laptop. I go from work station to work station. I still use it as a lap top, but thats like 1 - 2x a week it seems.

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nobody@flickr.com (MattCCC) — Fri, 17 May 2013 06:59:08 -0700

MattCCC posted a reply:

EmC10:

Yes, it's been awhile since I've read thru that. It is good to know and have good reasons to support our argument.

One conversation I had a few months ago was with a guy (video production) about why it's bad. I just picked a random industry like lawn care and said, "what if I chose 3 local companies to treat my lawn then pick the best one."
His response was "you go look at other lawns they've already treated and pick the one you like best or ask for references"... And I said "you mean like a portfolio?"

He knew what I was getting at but it wasn't til I compared it to another 'everyday' industry that he could see how wrong it would be.

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nobody@flickr.com (DeBoomBop) — Thu, 16 May 2013 16:02:05 -0700

DeBoomBop posted a reply:

We have this issue too at our church, except our services are 9 & 11.... Our children's pastors do a great job of managing effectively two entirely different kids church services - a 1-hour one then break for "sunday school"/small groups, then a 2-hour one at 11. I plan services so I try to keep things as tight as possible without feeling like we're on a ticking clock, and allowing for the Spirit to move how He wants. It's a balance.

I think one thing that helps is video transitions and to make sure whoever touches the mic is primed and ready with what they are going to say, in a concise way. We're experimenting now with combining our (live) announcements, welcome and offering together.

*ETA: I've also noticed that video announcements are a great 3-4 minutes of the service that are not necessarily an easier task to produce (vs a live person), but lend by far a much smoother time of transition between worship and the Word. HTH.

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nobody@flickr.com (DeBoomBop) — Thu, 16 May 2013 15:38:18 -0700

DeBoomBop posted a reply:

Wait, I see EmC10's is ajar slightly in that pic...

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nobody@flickr.com (DeBoomBop) — Thu, 16 May 2013 15:36:47 -0700

DeBoomBop posted a reply:

EmC10:

Thanks y'all. And, dumb question, but I've never had a Mac before, and judging by your posts, you can still control it with the lid closed through an external monitor, keyboard & mouse?? :)

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nobody@flickr.com (chuckscoggins) — Thu, 16 May 2013 13:03:35 -0700

chuckscoggins posted a reply:

I wouldn't start the second service later. Moving it even as early as 11:00 is going have a huge perception/psychological effect.

I've heard that all the studies show that 10:30 is the "ideal" time to go to church in most people's minds.

If it were me, I would work to fit it all into 70 min if possible.

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nobody@flickr.com (mattada) — Thu, 16 May 2013 11:26:52 -0700

mattada posted a reply:

yeah, i have a new 13" with the 7200rpm drive, 16gb of ram and quad core i7. So it stays pretty cool all day.

mac laptops actually vent out the back when closed. Maybe not as well as when open, but the screen off reduces some power use and heat anyway.

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nobody@flickr.com (EmC10) — Thu, 16 May 2013 08:44:37 -0700

EmC10 posted a reply:

DeBoomBop:

I have a cooler master stand. I didn't really have say in it.

The thing about macbooks is that they dont't have an external fan like other laptops. Instead, the way they cool off is through the keyboard, so having a setup where the laptop can't be cracked open doesn't allow your machine to cool off as much. I would suggest something that allows for that. Sure, it doesn't look as cool and may take up more space, but I'd rather be more safe than sorry, and lose space than fry my machine. Maybe doens't have that issue, though. My macbook pro is souped up to handle some big tasks.

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nobody@flickr.com (EmC10) — Thu, 16 May 2013 08:40:25 -0700

EmC10 posted a reply:

MattCCC:

Spec work will only get more prevalent, but I think it is our job as creatives to help educate people about spec work and why it's insulting and not really a good option for anyone.

If you haven't read through this site, I'd encourage everyone to: [www.nospec.com/faq]